Results

  • RPM limiter unchanged
  • Improved after cold start running
  • Cylinder deactivation switched off
  • Start/stop disabled
  • Increased torque in A mode
  • Torque limitation removed in D mode
  • Throttle response much better dosable
  • Modified exhaust valve opening logic

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Price and request

  • Squadra Chiptuning Giulia Q Medio
    € 590 ,-
  • Squadra Chiptuning Giulia Q Massimo
    € 790 ,-

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Experiences

Don, Medio tuning

I was happy with my Giulia Q as he was.

But there were some points that could be done differently (read: better).
It already starts with the cold start. By default, the V6 is kicked to life and everyone knows, don't scare a wild beast. You have to wake them up calmly.

Just to convince yourself that the Squadra Tuning update is necessary: ??at the cold start much less gasoline is injected and the V6 is quietly brought to life and warmed up.

When "cruising" on the highway, where you sometimes (unfortunately) only 100 km/h, the Q gives an annoying thump/vibration in the exhaust system. As if you are driving in a too low gear. That is no longer the case. This vibration is gone. In fact, it runs on 6 cylinders instead of 3 during partial load. If I had wanted a 3 cylinder I would have bought a Toyota Aygo!

To enjoy the great exhaust sound, the Q was sometimes in the RACE position as standard. All safety systems are thus figuratively put on the street. Also, but literally, 2 black stripes if you are not careful. With the slightest touch of the accelerator you got full power & torque at your disposal. You could compare the accelerator with an old-fashioned light switch: on or off. After the SW update from Stephan, you can now also continuously enjoy the exhaust sound in D mode, but with the safety systems in readiness. This modern device also listens better to the driver's foot. It takes some getting used to. In each position of the DNA / Race button, the accelerator must now be pressed a little further for the same performance. The gas reaction is now much nicer to dose. More gas means more performance. It is difficult to accommodate. Except it all feels much more natural now.

All in all, I am now even happier with my Giulia Q.

Han, Medio tuning

In 2017 I had a lot of doubts about what my next car should be. It took me quite a while before I knew what it was going to be. You would think, after driving mainly Alfa Romeos for 20 years, it would be an easy choice. A Giulia Q4 Veloce diesel in Misano blue, a Maserati Ghibli Diesel or a Jeep Grand Cherokee Eco diesel. All cars from the FCA group with a nice, powerful diesel engine.

Of course I was already thinking about a Giulia Q ... it was even at the top of my list, but at the top of my dream list. A new Q was too expensive for me at the time and I actually wanted a diesel because I drove quite a lot of kilometers per year.

In 2017, the 159 Ti 2.0 diesel was therefore exchanged for a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Now, after 3 years, still no regrets at all. Now I can hear everyone thinking, "This would be a review of a Giulia Q?" Yes yes, it will be, don't panic… ..

After a while I noticed that the second hand prices of the Giulia Q fell. Even under the price of an Alfa 4C (also high on the dream list). After some doubts about what to do, I made up my mind. There was going to be a Giulia Q next to the Jeep. The car is actually for my wife to use and on weekends, and other days off, to enjoy together (read for yourself). The Jeep remains the daily commuter traffic car. In no time conceived, in no time!

But… .. after a few weeks of riding I started to notice that some things should have been different about the Q. My wife also had some comments about the handling especially when the engine is cold. There were no complaints about the power or the torque because that is more than sufficient. With 600 NM and 510 HP you naturally expect a slightly naughty driving behavior. My complaints were mostly about the rough idling of the engine after a cold start, the wild throttle response which made maneuvering a bit of a hassle. Especially when you compare that with every car I've ever owned. And I noticed there was more torque in higher gears when accelerating than in lower gears. The latter was actually strange because nobody else complained about it, so what now ?, get used to it…. or I contact Stephan from Squadra tuning.

I did the latter. Friends all thought I was crazy, why change something that's so good. "Because it is possible" is the only correct answer. By coincidence, Stephan told me he was in the middle of developing a so-called Mid-tuning for this car. I had to be a little patient and after a few weeks I got the message that I was welcome. In the first email exchange, he confirmed some of my complaints and said there was a solution.

Saturday February 15 I went to Nunspeet for a SW update for the Q. Not for extra power, but hopefully to solve some problems with the driveability.
As usual, Stephan explained in detail what he had and had not changed. Even without driving it made me curious. In the past I had him tuned all my cars, but always with the Massimo package for full power and torque. So I was curious but also a bit skeptical whether this would be worth the money.

As usual, the first ride together and then behind the wheel yourself …… what a change… .. but also what an improvement! The handling has been greatly improved due to the much smoother throttle response, but it certainly doesn't feel lazy or slower. Strange ... Stephan also explained why ... In the standard SW a torque limiter is active up to 4500 RPM in the first 5 gears and these have now been removed. Only in racing mode this is not the case by default. But race mode is something I don't like to use on public roads. In certain circumstances it is very useful for some electronic helpers to take control. Especially since the driver's talent is limited. And with a Giulia Q you will sooner or later run into that limitation of your talent. I could not test the cold start because the engine was warm. That improvement had to be evident the next day.

The next day it was my wife who went to use the car. She was one of the people who thought I was crazy to have this car tuned. But she was now the first to tell me it had improved sooooo. That it was suddenly smart to have it done. The main complaint she had was that she had to brake quite hard when maneuvering the car with a cold engine. The engine just idles too fast in 1st gear for easy maneuvering. (Probably the high revs in combination with the automatic gearbox.) She also clearly noticed that the car was much smoother to drive.

The next day, when the engine had cooled down, I got to try it myself… .. and yes, she was right. The engine runs much smoother and even in a lower speed range. What a difference, what an improvement!
This Mid-tuning converts the Alfa Giulia Q from a “Bad Boy”, which was difficult to handle, to a “perfect gentleman”, with lots of power and torque at your disposal when needed.
The car is now so much more enjoyable to drive and much more manageable than before. And yes, even if power is not increased, the Q is faster than before due to the removal of the torque limiters in the first 5 gears. Let's just call this a job well done. And to make it even better, it is now finally possible to open the exhaust valves when not in Race mode or to keep them closed. The exhaust also sounds very nice when closed.
The latest improvement made was cylinder deactivation deactivation. This didn't bother me at first. But when Stephan told me it did annoy him because of the exhaust noise and an extra vibration, I didn't understand what he meant. Since it didn't bother me, I didn't really care until I started cruising the Q. When driving in a lower speed range, there is no thumping noise or vibration. Only now do I understand why it was turned off by Stephan.

Thanks Stephan. You turned the best Alfa into an even better one.

Han, upgrade to Massimo tuning

Thank you Stephan. You turned the best Alfa into an even better one.

Those were the words with which I ended when I wrote my story about the Alfa Giulia Q Mid tuning.
The Massimo tuning was not yet available at the time and I also did not have the feeling that more torque and power would add a lot to the Alfa. However, when I saw the torque curve of the Massimo tuning on the Squadra-tuning website, the blood started to crawl again where it could go. Actually, when I saw the torque and power increase it was clear, I want that too. Why? Is the question everyone should ask themselves. Well, because it was possible was my answer last time, but now I also know that the Alfa can also handle it easily. Many people think that cars with that much torque and power must have four-wheel drive to transfer all that violence to the asphalt, nothing could be further from the truth with the Alfa Giulia Q. The car is so good that it brings all the power to the asphalt with playful ease. . This is partly due to the active differential that continuously monitors the grip / slip and intervenes if necessary. In most cars this goes through the braking system, but if you want to be fast, you have to stay off the brakes as long as possible. The chosen solution from Alfa is called “Torque Vectoring” and ensures that via the differential all power is distributed over the rear wheels, whereby it is even possible to fully lock the differential if a wheel is inclined to slip.

So again a careful email to Stephan, just once again with the question, is it worth it? I know from the past that he would always answer that honestly and the answer was clear. Oh well, it pushes you a little harder in the seat over a wide rev range…. Top speed, well that's high enough and the 0 to 100 is also quite good without the Massimo tuning. However, there was a comment that 100 to 200 time would be positively influenced. But the comment, “it pushes you a little harder in the seat”, was decisive for me to make another appointment. However, there was one more wish…. In the table of the DNA-R mode I saw that A was squeezed very hard and N was a bit in between. Nothing wrong with that, certainly not with bad weather to slow down a bit in A and N, but still ... I mainly use the DNA-R button to influence the behavior of the machine and the A and N position are fine settings for nice to cruise and occasionally to accelerate. With such a limitation in torque and power, I might regret that. Very carefully asked whether it could be done differently? "Yes, it is possible". was the answer. See, that's the huge advantage if a tuner knows what he's doing. No sooner said than done and this week was the day. That's what it was all about, well it pushes you a little harder in the seat. Well I can assure everyone, it does and not just a little bit. From 2500 rpm it is really enjoyable with a healthy form of tension and a smile from ear to ear. And the really great thing is, it just doesn't stop pressing in the seat. So I can only say one thing, you have already made a great car better, and that better made car you have now made much better. Actually, I secretly hoped this, and you even made it happen again.
So let's just end with your own words, "well, it pushes you a little harder in the seat."